Bernard J. Tyson (chief executive of Kaiser Permanente) in “The Corner Office”

TysonAdam Bryant, Corner Office column, SundayBusiness section, The New York Times, The Corner Office: Indispensable and Unexpected Lessons from CEOs on How to Lead and Succeed, Times Books, Bernard J. Tyson (chief executive of Kaiser Permanente) in “The Corner Office”, Earl Wilson

Adam Bryant conducts interviews of senior-level executives that appear in his “Corner Office” column each week in the SundayBusiness section of The New York Times. Here are a few insights provided during an interview of Bernard J. Tyson, chief executive of Kaiser Permanente. “You can say whatever you want to say in this office to me. Just understand that I also have the freedom not to agree, but I want to know what you’re thinking.” To read the complete interview, check out other articles, and obtain subscription information, please click here.

Photo credit: Earl Wilson/The New York Times

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What were some early leadership lessons for you?

I grew up in a large family, with two brothers and four sisters. My father was a carpenter and a minister, so I grew up in a very religious environment. Telling stories is a big part of my communication style.

The second thing is, I am a man of my word. My father set an example that your word is your bond, and that if you say something and commit to it, you deliver on it. And if you can’t deliver on it, you owe the person the respect to explain why. Commitments to me are very important, and it doesn’t mean you have to be perfect. It means that you live by your word.

Any expressions you heard often from your parents?

I used to hear this all the time: “Be careful how you treat people. If you walk over people going up, those are the same people you’ll need on your way down.” That has always stayed with me about the right way to treat people. The other one is, “To whom much is given, much is required.” I am a very giving person in terms of time and energy and resources. I don’t do it for me; I view it as a way to contribute.

What were some lessons you learned early on in your career?

I was hired as an administrative analyst at Vallejo General Hospital in California, and worked closely with Jack Manley, the hospital administrator who was essentially the C.E.O. That gave me a chance to see how a leader thought. I was fascinated by the questions he would ask, which I would then try to answer by researching the data. It was almost like I was solving a mystery.

And what was it about the way he asked questions?

I’ve seen leaders who asked questions in a way that was meant to show you who’s the smartest person in the room. It’s a degrading way of asking questions — in effect: “I have the power in this room. I’m going to put a question on the table, and I dare anyone to answer it, because I’m going to show you how smart I am.” We’ve all experienced those kinds of bosses. Jack would truly try to engage with you in a joint exploration, and it was more about getting to the right conclusion than who gets credit.

What are some insights about leadership that you’ve gained more recently in your career?

At the end of the day, we all are complex beings, and I’m on top of my game when I have the whole person engaged in whatever it is we’re trying to do. I pay much more attention now to the nuances of individuals. I used to think that because I am the kind of leader who likes to think out loud, then everybody is supposed to think out loud. I later came to better understand differences in personalities and how people process information. Some people need to think and reflect, and then articulate what they have to say.

What are some details about the culture you’re trying to foster?

If you came into my office, you would see the American flag. It sits right on my desk, and there’s an American flag in the boardroom where I sit. I talk about this all the time. It’s a great country that we live in. I’ve come to appreciate it even more as I’ve grown older. And the reason the flag is in my office is that one of the beauties of living in this country is the freedom of speech.

Now, why would I ever want anyone to walk into my office and not exercise the freedom of speech? One of the things I am working extremely hard on is to create an environment of transparency and the freedom of speech. I tell people: “You can say whatever you want to say in this office to me. Just understand that I also have the freedom not to agree, but I want to know what you’re thinking. I want to know what’s on your mind, because I want to make the best decision that’s going to make this organization thrive.”

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To read the complete interview as well as Bryant’s interviews of other executives, please click here.

Adam Bryant, deputy national editor of The New York Times, oversees coverage of education issues, military affairs, law, and works with reporters in many of the Times’ domestic bureaus. He also conducts interviews with CEOs and other leaders for Corner Office, a weekly feature in the SundayBusiness section and on nytimes.com that he started in March 2009. In his book, The Corner Office: Indispensable and Unexpected Lessons from CEOs on How to Lead and Succeed, (Times Books), he analyzes the broader lessons that emerge from his interviews with more than 70 leaders. To read an excerpt, please click here. To contact him, please click here.

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